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Show Notes & Links

Every conversation we have is full of new information, fun facts, and compelling ideas.  We've listed all the topics and links for more information per episode right you don't have to do research.  Just enjoy the conversation and check here for the links.  Thanks for being part of the team.

Conversation 3.1: Clear Signage

In this episode we talk about ADHD testing, having a strong sense of social justice, “small n narcissism” as a trauma response, clear signage, and how much do we need to disclose to get needs met?





Universal Design

National Center on Accessibility

National Disability Authority


The Disability Act 2005 defines Universal Design, or UD, as:

  1. The design and composition of an environment so that it may be accessed, understood and used

    1. To the greatest possible extent

    2. In the most independent and natural manner possible

    3. In the widest possible range of situations

    4. Without the need for adaptation, modification, assistive devices or specialised solutions, by any persons of any age or size or having any particular physical, sensory, mental health or intellectual ability or disability, and

  2. Means, in relation to electronic systems, any electronics-based process of creating products, services or systems so that they may be used by any person.




Judah episode


Conversation 3.2: Social Contracts

In this episode we talk about how fear of autism goes hand in hand with ignorance, new research on three types of autism and connected to Maternal risk factors, the weirdness of feeling connected to people you don't know,   having a physical reaction to broken systems, plus clapping seals and creepy clowns.



Research points toward three autism subgroups with distinct prenatal risk factors

by Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute


Conversation 3.3: Hobbies with a Side of Hobbies

In this conversation, we talk about how passionate self-study is at the core of autistic experience, hobbies vs. independent study, autistics and employment, self-sabotaging thoughts, and how masking leads us to be interested in neuroscience and psychology.



00:02:59 Auticomm


00:07:30 Autism communities on Reddit. Here are two we like: Autism Translated and Autistic Pride


08:36 Knit the "Knives Out" Fisherman's Sweater


10:43  Bird Species Meme


12:12 Kitesurfing


12:47 Learn the Basic 8 Knots, Fid


15:29 Cub Scout Hobbies Activity Badge


28:43 Pecha Kucha presentations


33:38  Iain McGilchrist: The Master and His Emissary, The Divided Brain, Certainty and Flow

34:00 John Vervaecke: Meaning Crisis, Atheism, Religion & the Search for Wisdom, Awakening from the Meaning Crisis - Flow, Metaphor, and the Axial Revolution


35:11 An investigation of the determinants of motor contagion in preschool children.


Conversation 3.4:  Connections 

In this episode we talk about moments of connection; the non linear developmental patterns of autistics; gender fluidity; autistic representation in tv and films; the drama triangle and victim consciousness; reasonable societal accomodations; and empty bullshit rituals.




Jump the Shark

Happy Days - Fonzie Jumps the Shark, creating an expression for decades


 Kite boarding/kite sailing


Iain McGilchrist


Article are brain developmental differences for auties


gene type for autism - two different forms of autism with gender differences


Rule of reducing factors

Note from the Producers:  We thought this was a thing but apparently not.  Here's Tango's explanation of her use of the term: "Ah, so here I'm pulling the classic Tango move of encapsulating a big idea into a small phrase, haha. I mirrored his language with the phrase "reducing factors". The thing I'm referring to probably has an official term, but I'm not aware of it. I'm nodding, there, at my more general pet peeve for the over-constrictedness of modern scientific experimentation. The idea is that an experiment with a small amount of factors is easier to interpret than one with lots & lots of factors to account for. This is a classic mental framing approach in the hard science -- and for many good reasons. The rule is true but only works to a certain extent, because after a point you lose the correlation to reality. Lots of biological science is rocketing forward right now in areas where they're finally studying the females of the species. Scientists believed that limiting their experiments to males would improve their path to truth, but it actualized the opposite in many (but not all) areas. I'm a philosopher, this is a 'philosophy of science' pet peeve I'm commenting on. What Michael says is true; it's just that I can't let go of the nuance. Hahahaha, you're welcome. "


autism has high association with fluid genders

 Extraordinary Attorney Woo


artificial banana flavor




5:39 NYT article about Woo


5:44 Savantism


5:44 Non verbal


5:49 Vivo movie - autistic character Gabi

“My Own Drum” (Remix) Music & Lyric Video ft. Missy Elliott | Vivo | Netflix After School


5:51 The Good Doctor


5:52 Squid Game


5:55 Sia movie


5:42 Echolalia


5:55 My Left Foot


6:02 Hyper/hypo expressive


6:03 Hyperlexic autie/ the social autis


6:05 America’s Got Talent - autistic woman called brave


Queen for a Day


6:10 Drama triangle/victim consciousness

Sound bite       Drama Triangle


6:11 Dr. Phil

Dr.Phil kicks the creator of bum fights off his show!!


6:12 Good Riddance by Green Day


6:36 Ellen Degeneris My point, and I do have one


6:37 Oracle


6:40 Article about access board with Robert on panel


6:56 Reddit - great response to podcast

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